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Since its debut miniseries in 2008, CROSSED has captured the attention of comic book fans across the world with the high tension and visceral horror of its premise: in moments, a viral contagion spread over the face of the Earth, turning much of the populace into sadistically evil psychopaths. The …
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Here is a study that questions the method of execution of Jesus -crucifixion was only one of the many sadistic ways people were executed in antiquity, and the Bible does not outright state which method was used. This may be of academic interest for us, but undermining a widely held …
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jonnyeffinb:
My understanding is that Roman crucifixion involved a number of different instruments. The most basic was the crux simplex, an upright pole or stake. More complicated forms used a patibulum, the cross beam resulting in a T or t shaped cross once fixed upon the pole.
Considering that the Gospel accounts tend to agree that Jesus carried His cross to the place of crucifixion it is almost certain that he carried the patibulum, as it would have been more cost effective to have the simple cross remain stationary. Having condemned criminals carry the entire gibbet would have been inefficient (and the Romans loved efficiency) and simply implausible given the kind of beatings the condemned often received prior to crucifixion. You don't carry a huge piece of timber through a city after having the shit beat out of you with a cat of nine tails.
So while it's impossible to say with exact certainty the shape of the cross Jesus was crucified on, it most likely involved the patibulum, thus the usual understanding of early Christians that Jesus was crucified either on a T (tau-shaped cross) or t cross.
Considering that the Gospel accounts tend to agree that Jesus carried His cross to the place of crucifixion it is almost certain that he carried the patibulum, as it would have been more cost effective to have the simple cross remain stationary. Having condemned criminals carry the entire gibbet would have been inefficient (and the Romans loved efficiency) and simply implausible given the kind of beatings the condemned often received prior to crucifixion. You don't carry a huge piece of timber through a city after having the shit beat out of you with a cat of nine tails.
So while it's impossible to say with exact certainty the shape of the cross Jesus was crucified on, it most likely involved the patibulum, thus the usual understanding of early Christians that Jesus was crucified either on a T (tau-shaped cross) or t cross.
threadlocker:
JonnyEffinBest said:
My understanding is that Roman crucifixion involved a number of different instruments. The most basic was the crux simplex, an upright pole or stake. More complicated forms used a patibulum, the cross beam resulting in a T or t shaped cross once fixed upon the pole.
Considering that the Gospel accounts tend to agree that Jesus carried His cross to the place of crucifixion it is almost certain that he carried the patibulum, as it would have been more cost effective to have the simple cross remain stationary. Having condemned criminals carry the entire gibbet would have been inefficient (and the Romans loved efficiency) and simply implausible given the kind of beatings the condemned often received prior to crucifixion. You don't carry a huge piece of timber through a city after having the shit beat out of you with a cat of nine tails.
So while it's impossible to say with exact certainty the shape of the cross Jesus was crucified on, it most likely involved the patibulum, thus the usual understanding of early Christians that Jesus was crucified either on a T (tau-shaped cross) or t cross.
Most human beings couldn't carry a crucifix anyway - at least not one sturdy enough to be nailed to. They actually had a guy of average build try and walk the Via Dolorosa carrying a cross made with the materials of the time, and there was no way. It probably would have killed anyone who'd had any material damage done.
This makes the Gospel account that much more horrifying - that he was so badly wounded he dropped what amounts to a solitary PLANK three times, and the Centurion was worried that the effect of having him carry it further would kill him BEFORE Golgotha.
katfireblade
Yeah, its a joke. I read it and died laughing, so it absolutely had to be shared. Enjoy. 
Newbie: well, 'cause I read in this really kewl book that said, like, chickens are supposed to cross the road, right?
Posting on an Online Discussion Group: What the hell do you …
Newbie: well, 'cause I read in this really kewl book that said, like, chickens are supposed to cross the road, right?
Posting on an Online Discussion Group: What the hell do you …
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user0388058038:
Awww, I was going to post that one. Oh well, I would probably have forgotten...good thing someone got around to it.
I posted it in my LiveJournal and got this response from a Thelemite:
Thelemite: In the due course of time it became apparent to the chicken that it was her True Will to cross the road, and she so applied the principles of MAGICK as to attain this goal. She acquired the necessary precursors to crossing the road (a physically incarnate, feather-bedecked, oviparous vehicle for her soul capable of ambulatory locomotion in a desired direction, and a suitable road within the compass of the crossing capacity of the chosen vehicle); she performed the proper preparations for the transit (obtaining nourishment adequate for the physical exertion required, so conditioning her body and mind as to obtain mastery over both these unwilling servants sufficent to the task of pedestrian transviation); she focused the powers so marshalled to the chosen end, free from lust of result, one-pointed in resolve. and thereby identified herself with the single, omnipotent, and hence invincible WILL of the universe as a whole, reducing her crossing of the road to an inevitable result of the inscrutable and indomitable forces of natural law. Alas, she was run over by a lorry halfway across the tarmac, indicating that her initial appraisal of her Will was no doubt erroneous, except to the extent that this lesson itself was an aspect of her own higher Will, a necessary result to be obtained from her (brief) time incarnate in this particular domestic-avian form.
I posted it in my LiveJournal and got this response from a Thelemite:
Thelemite: In the due course of time it became apparent to the chicken that it was her True Will to cross the road, and she so applied the principles of MAGICK as to attain this goal. She acquired the necessary precursors to crossing the road (a physically incarnate, feather-bedecked, oviparous vehicle for her soul capable of ambulatory locomotion in a desired direction, and a suitable road within the compass of the crossing capacity of the chosen vehicle); she performed the proper preparations for the transit (obtaining nourishment adequate for the physical exertion required, so conditioning her body and mind as to obtain mastery over both these unwilling servants sufficent to the task of pedestrian transviation); she focused the powers so marshalled to the chosen end, free from lust of result, one-pointed in resolve. and thereby identified herself with the single, omnipotent, and hence invincible WILL of the universe as a whole, reducing her crossing of the road to an inevitable result of the inscrutable and indomitable forces of natural law. Alas, she was run over by a lorry halfway across the tarmac, indicating that her initial appraisal of her Will was no doubt erroneous, except to the extent that this lesson itself was an aspect of her own higher Will, a necessary result to be obtained from her (brief) time incarnate in this particular domestic-avian form.
valeyard:
Wonderful!!! I had quite a few good belly aching laughs. Thanks for such an enjoyable post. It's good to laugh at yourself and forget to be so damnable serious! 
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Santa Cruz De Tenerife - A loggerhead sea turtle has crossed the Atlantic in five months, a Spanish nature foundation said on Wednesday.
The turtle, named Aurora, was captured in the Canary Islands and a signal transmitter was placed on its 53cm-long shell in July 2009.
The turtle later embarked …
The turtle, named Aurora, was captured in the Canary Islands and a signal transmitter was placed on its 53cm-long shell in July 2009.
The turtle later embarked …
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Why did the chicken cross the road ........GEORGE W BUSH: We don't really care why the chicken crossed the road. We
just want to know if the chicken is on our side of the road or not. The
chicken is either against us or for us. There is no middle ground here.
COLIN POWELL: Now to the left of the screen, you can clearly see...
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just want to know if the chicken is on our side of the road or not. The
chicken is either against us or for us. There is no middle ground here.
COLIN POWELL: Now to the left of the screen, you can clearly see...
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Why did the chicken cross the road ........GEORGE W BUSH: We don't really care why the chicken crossed the road. We
just want to know if the chicken is on our side of the road or not. The
chicken is either against us or for us. There is no middle ground here.
COLIN POWELL: Now to the left of the screen, you can clearly see...
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just want to know if the chicken is on our side of the road or not. The
chicken is either against us or for us. There is no middle ground here.
COLIN POWELL: Now to the left of the screen, you can clearly see...
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cross your fingers, cross your toes, cross your arms, cross your legs. Toss those dice, cuz daddy needs a new pair of shoes..
And today's humor will be:
Subject: FW: WHY DID THE CHICKEN CROSS THE ROAD?
GEORGE W BUSH
We don't really care why the chicken crossed the road. We just want to know
if the chicken is on our side of the road or not. The chicken is either
against us or for us. There is no middle ground here.
COLIN POWELL
Now to the left...
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Subject: FW: WHY DID THE CHICKEN CROSS THE ROAD?
GEORGE W BUSH
We don't really care why the chicken crossed the road. We just want to know
if the chicken is on our side of the road or not. The chicken is either
against us or for us. There is no middle ground here.
COLIN POWELL
Now to the left...
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David Lapham I think handled the crossed universe pretty well.