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Tuesday Apr 08, 2003

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I work at the Lusty Lady. On May 9 I will be laid off, as will every other employee, because the place is closing down. We are now organizing a co-op called the Looking Glass Collective, which is planning a radical takeover. We are broke. They want $500,000. We need your help.

On another note, here are some questions and postulations
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Assuming (because I think we have to start with some assumptions, even if they get turned around or broken down in the course of research) nature/the world/the universe favor/s novelty (see Terrence McKenna's time wave theory, maybe) over stagnation, and randomness-differentiation over entropy (I think of a series of new drawings as opposed to incrementally degrading photocopies of a single drawing), how does the (novel and creative) coping "trick" of dissociation, divisive in its fragmentation of the ego and in its promotion of a plurality of ego states, fit into a paradigm of an integrated universe (in Eastern philosophical terms, transcending the illusion of separateness)? (Should I assume this integrity is the ideal?)

In other words, if ego splitting/branching is evolutionary in that it supports the survival of the subject, does it then fit harmoniously into the model of the ideally integrated universe ("as within so without, as above so below") in which survival is the leitmotif?

Maybe we can also look at communication within the matrix itself (probably instantaneous if not simultaneous, but I digress).

So, does dualistic survival (diss.) meet harmoniously with integrated survival (greater universe), or does the dualistic eventually have to surrender to the unified?

We might examine rhythms and patterns, ebbing and flowing of oneness and divisiveness in the microcosm (i.e. the person as a biological and as a psychological entity) and in the macrocosm (i.e. society, nature, universe, etc.) and see how these impact the reconciliation of dissociation with an ideally integrated universe. We might also consider the possibility that divisiveness here coexists with unity there, or that the divisiveness will eventually have to surrender to integrity. (And then we open several cans of worms such as paradox...*sigh*)

I would also like to examine the nature of dissociation. Is it simply an ego fragmentation caused by trauma and intended to promote survival in extremis? Is it a multi-frequency, multi-dimensional state in which different parts (subtle bodies, etc.) attain separate awarenesses (and awareness of those awarenesses), perhaps achieving communication among those awarenesses (co-consciousness)? Is dissociation as simple as leaving the body? Is it all of the above in cooperation (my bias)?

- Thora Zine miao!!
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bettie:
Matt and I dated for about a second. He gave me some rock that he found on the beach and he gave me this whole story about how when you are just thinking about life you can rub the rock and your thoughts will go into the rock and one day you can leave it on a beack somewhere and someone else will find it and gain all ovf you knowledge. Man, it was a serious bunch of crap. So when I decided I was'nt really into it anymore he pouted and would'nt talk to me anymore and asked one of my friends to get his rock back from me. Poor guy. Hehehe.
Apr 11, 2003
drknievel:
Well, based on my own personal experience, I would have to say that the original human duality lies in the human conscious being simultaneously seperate and indivisible from the integrated Universe. The division begins with humankinds' ability to percieve itself as being seperate from the Universe, and yet obviously no human can ever be truly seperate from the Universe, because the Universe is where we all live. Animals, for instance, must be an integral part of the Universe, because, without human self-awareness, they simply don't know any other way to be. On the other hand, those humans who recognize the integrated Universe must work extra hard to re-learn how to be a part of it. It's a Paradise Lost where humans want to have their cake and to eat it too, because in the process of evolving above the level of mere animals, humans have lost their inherent connection to the integrated Universe.

I assume we can agree that animals can't be affected from human dissociation, because without human emotion, they cannot suffer the same emotional trauma. This harkens to a book I've recently picked up, called Why God Won't Go Away, in which the author is demonstrating why (and how), despite all the scientific discoveries & explanations that have been made over the centuries, such a majority of people still refuse to give up on the their beliefs in a higher conscious power than themselves. Through his studies (among other things) of the brain activity generated by Buddhist monks meditating and breaking down their seperatness from the world, he's discovered that the same part of the brain that gives humans their self-awareness is also the same part of the brain that generates religion. That is, that because humans believe themselves to be greater than their environment, it "logically" follows that something else must be greater than them. It is impossible to be human without being pre-disposed to believing in a higher power. My point is, so too for dissociation-- it is impossible to be human without being subject to dissociation.

Therefore, from an integrated Universe perspective, I don't think that ego fragmentation contradicts the integrated Univerese at all, because ultimately, humans and all their self-awareness still ARE a part of the integrated Universe, whether they percieve themselves to be or not. Because dissociation evolved in an integrated Universe, it MUST be a part of that integration. I'm sure there are a number of different forms of dissociation, so I'm sure that it would be impossible to come up with one blanket generalized justification, other than to say that dissociation is an evolutionary device that allows humans to survive as humans in an integrated Universe.

Know what I mean?

Dr. Knievel

[Edited on Apr 11, 2003]
Apr 11, 2003

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