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Thursday Mar 31, 2005

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i'm forced to do a 15 minute presentation on spirituality for school - fucking hippies...

here's my outline so far:

5 min history + assumptions -
5 min discobject
5 min ethics


historic:

i was into big ideas from very very early - i was obsessed with the absolute and such, i thought i was brilliant, but i didn't have it all figured out yet - i was really fucking confused, compounded by constant concern with figuring it all out... definitely one of those kids who thinks too much, i didn't have any patience with the process of discovery - all i found was bullshit.

i read a lot of religious crap when i was young looking for Answers - my moms favorite memory is of me reading the bible and listening to dark side of the moon in the family room at fourteenish... just because i'd decided to try and see whether there was anything to the whole church deal.

i've taken intro to logic twice, i tried being a philosophy major for about a second, but most of those Respected Philosophers are nearly incomprehensible and totally boring...

so in bullet points, here was my chronological progression through the major religions,

step 1 - always denial.
-nihilism/solipsism
-atheism
step 2 - the search
-judaism -fiddler on the roof.
-taoism
step 3 - the revocation
-the irrelevance of determinism, fate and god
-nihilism/solipsism
-atheism
step 4 - another much longer search,
-objectivism
-zen
-shinto
-post-ironic agnosticism
-discordianism
-hinduism

the most central spect of my spirituality is that i've never heard a thing about god, the afterlife, or the absolute, worth repeating


DISCORDIAN OBJECTIVISM
metaphysics
-manyworlds/all viewpoints
--infinity
-if i exist, and i choose to take on faith that you exist, then how could i deny that any pov exists?
--if all these povs exist, and many of them are essentially indistinguishable, then how is there a functional difference? i refuse to be a strict determinist, thus mutual non exclusion - ultimately memory is the only record, and memory is variable.
--pkd, memory alteration, etc
----immortality

epistemology
-rational and post rational
--the simultaneity of total chaos and total order
--everythins is true false and meaningless
-i refute it thus
-knowledge and fact are fluid
-the absence of absolute truth does not undermine the nature of truth. absolute truth would be boring.



ethics
-fractal/organic values-
--complexity, emergence, the value of the complexity of human society, the value of prudence, technology, getting off planet. protecting the complex, stweardship.


the vision which the ethics creates, maturity.

replacing the superstitious guidelines of ancient "wisdom" ie religion, serving the same funtion, the new, logical, valid ethical system becomes a mechanism for dealing with the world, making decisions that are based on something besides raw instinct or liturgy.


2-3 min quote from days of war nights of love.




libernull?


ARRR!!!
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