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Tuesday Jun 08, 2004

Jun 8, 2004
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Ok, so, my love of firearms prompted me to go the shooting range yesterday. I always forget how much fun it is. Now, just because I say fun doesn't mean that I think that guns are toys and are not serious. I'm fully aware that they are lethal weapons. There was once a time in my life when I hated guns. I thought all guns should be rounded up and melted down. That the only people who purchased guns were ghetto, backwards hicks, baby killers and/or cowards. I felt that guns were unnecessary and had no place in a civil society. Then it donned on me....

we are not a civil society

Sure, in a perfect world we wouldn't need firearms, or any weapons for that matter. We also wouldn't need locks on our doors, biotech's trying to find vaccines for deadly diseases, seat belts, or leashes on our babies wink (BTW, while I'm spouting off my views of things, I think that those leashes that people put on their kids are ridiculous. Hold your kids hand people. It's really not that hard) What I'm getting at, is that it's not a perfect world. Do you honestly think that if the government said, "Hey! screw the second amendment, everyone who owns a gun needs to turn them in immediately (while we keep them in storage, oh and while we're at it we're still going to keep all of our weapons) because this will make us safe", that everyone who owned a gun would do this? No. Why? Because a lot of the people who own guns solely to commit crimes with them are people who purchased them illegally, and they are the ones who will keep them. And, now, if the rest of the law abiding citizens who actually registered their guns are now forced to give them up, do you think the crime rate would go up or down? Common sense. Now, obviously, there's a lot of grey area in this topic that a lot of people seem to look at as black and white. I'm pro gun, yes, however that doesn't mean I'm pro random acts of violence with firearms. But I've done my research on it. That's why I'm pro gun now, when before I wasn't. See, I had never fired a gun, I was scared of it, I knew nothing about them. So I learned. And I went from there. I could have decided that I still didn't like them after learning about them, reading all of the statistics about children accidentelly shooting themselves or the number of suicides that are caused by firearms (which BTW, in 1995 guns were the cause of 1.5% of fatal deaths. 1.5%!! More people died of choking that year). But I didn't, I weighed out the pros and cons (and there's a lot of them, and it's proven to be difficult to find any research that isn't biased one way or the other) and made a conscious and educated decision to accept that guns are apart of my world. And that I can either ignore that, or I can learn to use them and know how to utilize this tool that I've been given. I found that the majority of people I come across who say they hate guns are generally the people who are uneducated about them and fear them. People who may have had bad experiences with them, known people who've died by them. I have, I know people who've died by them, I've had bad experiences with them, it's one of the reasons I wanted so badly to learn about them. That reason, and the fact that the government is slowly taking away our rights and I'm not going to sit idle and watch while they do.

ok, ok, enough of this. Although, that all being said, I was wondering if anyone wants to buy me this:
Classic Personal Size P239 Rainbow Titanium, Limited Edition.

Please? thanks.

I love that I'm allowed to have opinions of things without worrying about offending other people. Because we are all entitled to our opinions, and it's absolutely nothing personal. Right?

Kisses kiss

"What country can preserve it's liberaties if it's rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms." ... Thomas Jefferson, 1787
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fenris23:
Well I was going to comment about your opinions about guns. In a nice way I swear! but now I have a different reason to critique your position...

Your CHOICE of gun. biggrin

Too small of bullet. That doesn't have the stopping power to stop someone my size or bigger if they were coming at you with a knife. The next issue is the magazine capacity. SEVEN? If you are comfortable with that few bullets get a revolver at least they won't jam on you. If you are in a situation that actually requires a gun --the honest truth is these are RARE-- you will likely be facing more than one person. As it has a small caliber lets say it takes two bullets per person to insure they are no longer threats to you. You can only take care of three people and that's if you do not miss... in a stress filled combat event. Do not think that in that situation the second magazine is going to help you AT ALL. Also the gun itself is SMALL. Purely designed as a concealable weapon and concealing it is illegal anyway. It also looks poorly balanced so I wouldn't trust it if it came down to wrestling for it.

However all that said, if you want it as a TOY it would make a nice, if overpriced, toy. tongue

PS: I don't know if I got around to saying hi yet, but it was nice meeting you at the brunch after prom. I sat right across from you. Maybe, if you aren't too offended by my unprovoked attack on you, I can give my opinion on the rest of the gun issue sometime?
Jun 9, 2004
fenris23:
Classic Compact Size P228



Here is a similar sized gun with 9mm and and ten per magazine. Its available blued not QUITE as pretty. Who knows maybe you could even get it with the same finish. I would bet it is possible just prohibitively expensive.

If I was looking for a gun for ME, here is the gun I would be looking at. A Glock 20c. Although, I might be happier with a dual action gun.



For the moment though, I am not in the market.
Jun 9, 2004

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