ttubretep

You ought to check this thread out. You may have an ally in souljacker.

http://suicidegirls.com/boards/Current+Events/18106/

Put it this way, I'm disinclined to believe that there is much nobility involved in all of the events including and leading from 9/11. There is far too much about the whole thing that we are both receiving not second but maybe third or fourth hand. Whether you watch FOX or I read Disinfo.com. 9/11 polarised American feelings and policies. I'm sure you agree with that. And a leader machiavellian enough would take advantage of that. It might not even be Dubya making those decisions. He has his own PR consultants and advisors, people capable of being far colder than him. The ends justifies the means. SO no Dubya doesn't have to be the blame, but he IS the figurehead of America. Naturally he will attract the flying cream pies and rotten tomatoes.

You're right, I don't have any basis to make that statement except some inferences made by articles highlighted by the document I offered you. Many links of which are NOT to what you might call 'subversive' publications, but some mainstream ones like the New Yorker or even USA Today. I prefer to be pessimistic and cynical in my choices of opinion rather than optimistic.

I don't feel it is a tragedy at all that we cannot change each other's minds. I wasn't in this debate to do that. I was in it to throw my ideas against yours and to see what came out of it, what was still standing. Look through my posts, I've changed. Haven't you? I'm here hoping to gain something from the exchange. Probably not that much but so what? We need variety in our political views. As long as neither represents too much of a majority then this is a good thing.

Anyhow, good game

[Edited on May 31, 2003]