And a quote from a posting i did in one of the groups.
I do not understand how a person could willingly follow a god on the general deffiniton of the word. Here is a quote from a conversation i had earlier.
I have an issue with the bible yes. But the important issue is with god. I don't see how a being could make existence and then not have the power to make it a happy place. I'm not looking for perfection. That would be boring. But you can have an imperfect world and not have people getting murdered and raped. So the way i see it. If there is a god, ether he/she/it had nothing to do with creation or he has the ability to fix things, which makes him/it/she/whatever the complete opposite of anything i want to be associated with.
So most can agree that mistakes need to happen. Its part of learning and can makes things better in the end. I would not want a world with no mistakes. But do we really need things like rape and murder? No. And the answer is always no. Thats what gets me when it comes to god. If he is there and can do something about it then fuck him. I will not worship a being like that.
If he is there and cannot do anything about it then where did all the power go. It is no easy task to make everything. Just ask any physics major. It doesnt make sense. (please dont give me the "god works in mysterious ways" crap. its tired)
So I guess we have three options.
God is there but wont help. (not worth worshiping or paying attention two.)
God is there and can't help, but sits back judging people. And he wont let people at the good stuff unless he thinks they are alright. Seems kinda selfish to me. And which fucking rule book do we follow? (Again. Not worth my worshiping him. If what we did in life actually determined where we went in death there damm sure would have been more reliable ways of telling which set of rules was right.)
Or there is nothing out there. (In this case there is nothing to worship)
Or maybe he is there and he is just looking for generally good people and doesnt really care if they fall into any particular group. (In this case you still don't need a religion. You just need to be a nice person right? So why worship)
And now I am at a loss. I cannot in any way find a good reason to even worry about god. Or worry about which religion i follow. I am curious to here other peoples thoughts on this. Why do believe in your god while still keeping the about questions about the shitty things in life in your mind? And what is the point.
As a side note just in case your curious. If you forced me to place my beliefs in a category they would be jammed somewhere between zen and atheism.
-roguemind 