One day I'll remember that no matter the forum, the internet is not the place for rational discussion. Either you have to cut down your post drastically to a readable size and just hope that people wont jump to wildly wrong accusations, or you have to post 1 inane paragraph that barely encompases the topic. When you address an open minded audience it seems that even then some will transpose the most venomous assumptions of intent, speaking volumes of their own experiences more than it ever will of the OP. Next time I'll be sure to give a one liner like "women I know, and that I know like me from their friends have a habit of being painfuly shy and freezing. Tips on how to help them past their fear plx. kk thx bye." Oh and perhaps a cat picuture for good measure, it is the web after all.