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You had a cell phone, but as a chip in your head?

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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2317225/board/nest/230741791

This is an old SciFi topic (telepathy) but these guys give it a small twist.

Before we all get brain function augmenting implants.. and if there's call for some universal machine based language that normal humans can't manage to grasp without such augmentation.. and why limit it to just language.. or thoughts.. but feels and such. Anything my senses can sense, and my brain can imagine, can be in your head for you to share in.

A brain machine interface, brain implant.. that was part of a network could provide a huge enhancement to the stock physical human sensorium.

Ponder perhaps our evolution. And our dreams. As in what you have already read, or seen in movies on the topic of telepathy. Or have just personally imagined life could be like if you could read other peoples minds. And what hacking could mean if you could literally control or invade someone's thoughts. Perhaps our dreams are so vivid because it is almost possible.. it is probably inevitable.. or is already possible if the listen to some people.

As humans, we supposedly developed the bodies we have today based on a variety of factors like environment, trees to ground, tool use, and the requirement to know how to make them and use them, diet, shifting from high energy fruit, to long term storage fatty foods.. to cooked foods that are easier to digest and thus provide easier access to the chemical energy in our food at lower cost.

Net result, big brains, less emphasis on food digestion, more energy from the food we eat, and tools. Many tools.

One of the best and most universal of those tools is language. But as any multilingual can tell you, the effectiveness of language varies and can depend on the subject on the other end.

But language doesn't tell you what's in someone's head. It can feel at times like language these days is practically vestigial (for some people who aren't particularly strong with their charisma). Obviously those who are find success therein, and good for them.

What seems to be more universally vestigial, especially these days is the ability to communicate a wide variety of feelings. As in besides language, just in body mannerisms and general behavior some people are just uncouth.

I made a joke just now that if you're initiated in the use of the internet such things basically go out the window.

But the point I was trying to make is that they go out the window because there's a sense of isolation for some people, because they interface with machines more than with people, and it needn't be thus.

A brain machine interface that allowed direct interface with the internet (and by extension other people).. would be very interesting in the further evolution of our species.

I mean SciFi, as mentioned is full of examples of what telepathy means, but there aren't many modern examples that really push what a person with a radio in his head could be capable of. One barely effective example, per specific topic is CBS Intelligence. Minus telepathy because Gabriel is the only human with a chip, until he isn't.

For starters and something easy to understand (ICYM Intelligence), consider The Ubisoft Montreal game "Watch_Dogs".

I find it archaic for the game to have been designed based on mere cell phones. They were working on it for so long though after all so they could be forgiven.

But something like Lucy is just fucking stupid.. that it just burns down the hole kitchen regarding basic Credibility. I was shocked it wasn't being directed by Luc Besson. Oh wait. I'm not shocked. Not at all. Because it is.

Which means normally I wouldn't bother to deride his work.. because some of them are my favorites, I would just wish he'd stop shitting on Science Fiction concepts like this that should have at least a cursory sign ofs by people that do actual science.

Anyway.

Spooky communication and control should be coming to a brain near you. After all the ability to call got portable, then ubiquitous, then wearable.. pretty fast (considering the gap between the invention of radio and the first cell phone, and then the first smartphone and now, effectively wearable smartphones). Truth be told, Watch Dogs as is could be in the real world given what we hold in our hands minus nefarious desires and ubiquitous networked systems to control. There are many networked systems you could control if you had the means and a suite of exploits, but they don't need to be limited to the apps on your phone.. as long as you have a connection and a botnet or talent behind you.. you could hack all kinds of things remotely. Now put that power in your head.. and then the same power in the heads of a group of talented hackers. Somehow a mobile botnet inside the heads of conscious humans.. that's modernly terrifying.

I'm not going to touch on actually controlling matter at a distance because that's pointless at the present time.

But again, taking watch dogs as an example, and going beyond silly things like implanting a grain of rice rfid tag under your skin to pull Houdini tricks on locks and stuff.. that's nothing like what you can do with a radio and adequate processing power.

Add the internet to that and you're entering Ghost in the Shell capabilities. Or more basically, giving people a 5th tool, aside from Sight, Smell, Sound and language to affect control over things at a distance. Ignoring latency, that distance is pretty vast.

Like as children we miss out on a major bit of education, well some of us, the ones with access to literature, and video games etc can exercise it to a degree that makes us different.. how much imagination makes a big difference. 3D spacial aptitude, like reading maps, finding your way around, just basically guessing because your brain can imagine a variety of outcomes.. children should be trained to develop their 'imagination'.

If that thing we all imagination is the thing we'll need to think to each other and computers.. we'd be better for having really well developed and active imaginations. I mean why is it some kinds will just disappear into a day dream. What are they seeing. How can that be made as crystal clear as waking consciousness? How come it is easier for some to imagine things but very hard for others. The more clearly and easier it is for you to imagine something, probably the easier it would be for a machine to read it and translate it into usable data. Like if your mind isn't a frazzled mess it might be more clear what synapses are firing, when, how, what pattern and order, what groups etc, to define clear thoughts. And I wonder why is it Sight seems to turn off or mute when trying to imagine things. Is it easy for people to imagine things clearly while still being full aware of what they are seeing.. multitasking vision and comprehension of what you're seeing while imagining something else. Example reading but thinking of something else completely. I sometimes find myself reading the words.. but thinking of something else. Several lines down.. I'd be like dafuq did I just read and it was like a news broadcast on mute. Lips are moving.. but just the lips, where's the rest of the picture and the meaning behind everything I just read? There should be a better way, or a way to strengthen our brains and minds through training, or protocols, skills, extra senses.

Like earlier today I was having trouble with XboxOne.. which means I turned it on and was trying to do something with it aside from running a video game.. and opened a help and support webpage.

Coming from a time when Xbox powers that be swore Xbox would NEVER have an internet browser.. they must still be exerting some influence because it doesn't work well at all. Can't download anything.. and navigation is irritating.

The site has a skype number to call for support. XboxOne has Skype and actually dialed the number.

No answer. Kind of happy there wasn't but annoyed at the same time. Started a chat. Chatting through a controller is slow.

So I dropped the controller and plugged a micro USB transmitter/receiver. I'm not even sure why I was surprised or even questioned that it would work (since it works on an Android Phone) but was soon typing.

Typing, at normal speeds is still slow because if there's a human on the other end they still need to read and reply.

Problems of course weren't resolved since they all have to do with XboxOne being shit. So I agreed to terminate the exchange and will at some point post to the Feedback portion of the website.. which I'm no sure why I even questioned it.. obviously isn't accessible from XboxOne.

Why is it so shit.

But the whole experience makes me think we're in the stone age.

Same as the majority of the hacking and stuff in Watch Dogs. Sure you can open a gate.. but to think it, should make it so.

To speak to a support agent means I can't just replay what happened in my thoughts and have them transmitted.

Part of this matured while game testing because so often they are like BS that didn't happen, do it again. Can't. So it didn't happen. Game ships. Of course shit happens. Asshats. Patch. They break something else. With consoles anything that gets through used to mean recertification. Certification being a huge bonus for the quality of console games over PC games.. but certification should be hell if QA isn't ignored.

What about Machine Verification that it did happen because I can't run the steps through in my head and then have the machine simulate as many permutations as could be possible on that section of a game.. validate the errors and report them properly.. that would be awesome. The way production code is today there's shouldn't be such issues. Everything should be server based and logged.. you could play back a session from log data and see what happened.. but anyway.

What if thoughts were backed up to a server and could be played back like RL.

I wonder how profoundly it would change the world for the invention of machine that could read and transmit thoughts that weren't unintelligible static. Is it going to take a huge super computer reading through the entirety of the noise of human thoughts to make sense of them enough to clear up the noise and make perfect sense of each thought? Or could a cell phone suffice, not like those are puny for processing power these days by any means. I wonder because natural language recognition in a noisy environment is not easy. How do you tune out brain and nerve noise not relate to language, or vision, or imagination, hearing etc. Another question is some of the impulses that humans use to control things, like our hands for typing, for fine motor control requires feedback. Would a brain implant need to listen for and provide feedback to the brain and nervous system the same way? How would network latency affect that type of communication. If affected by chronic latency, could it negatively affect brain function.. as in perhaps making the subject much slower in reaction times, have less imagination, less initiative or cause other psychological damage?

Or what if many of us would be left out because our brains would have to evolve or require substantial training to have a uniform format that machines could understand.

Sure.. we can make a brain machine interface that can do call kinds of magical things.. be we have to reformat your brain.

Thus beforehand you should probably make a backup.

Aren't we? Social networking being what it is today.. you take The Machine at face value.. and your brain ends up a cup of tapioca pudding up ended on the pavement and your brain needed to be rebuilt with a spiderweb of machinery, and your mind needed to be rebuilt from scratch but at least the basics would be handled by the computer through a variety of protocols. Great.

We could sit you down in front of your various social media profiles for a while.

Oops.. oh god, ok.. so that didn't work..

Reformat again.