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Though I did not write this, I found it on a board. However it does convey my feelings that I once had and may still be harboring. I also believe I have read this somewhere way before but I do not remember where.


EDIT: I also should have clarified that I don't agree with everything here. I know I did post it as a means to convey what I had felt at one point but I do not mean to point fingers towards all women.

Attention, femalia.

What happened to all the nice guys?
The answer is simple: you did.
See, if you think back, really hard, you might vaguely remember a Platonic guy pal who always seemed to want to spend time with you. He'd tag along with you when you went shopping, stop by your place for a movie when you were lonely but didn't feel like going out, or even sit there and hold you while you sobbed and told him about how horribly the (other) guy that you were fucking treated you.
At the time, you probably joked with your girlfriends about how he was a little puppy dog, always following you around, trying to do things to get you to pay attention to him. They probably teased you because they thought he had a crush on you. Given that his behavior was, admittedly, a little pathetic, you vehemently denied having any romantic feelings for him, and buttressed your position by claiming that you were "just friends." Besides, he totally wasn't your type. I mean, he was a little too short, or too bald, or too fat, or too poor, or didn't know how to dress himself, or basically be or do any of the things that your tall, good-looking, fit, rich, stylish boyfriend at the time pulled off with such ease.
Eventually, your Platonic buddy drifted away, as your relationship with the boyfriend got more serious and spending time with this other guy was, admittedly, a little weird, if you weren't dating him. More time passed, and the boyfriend eventually cheated on you, or became boring, or you realized that the things that attracted you to him weren't the kinds of things that make for a good, long-term relationship. You ignored the nice guy. You used him for emotional intimacy without reciprocating, in kind, with physical intimacy. You laughed at his consideration and resented his devotion. You valued the aloof boyfriend more than the attentive "just-a-" friend. Eventually, he took the hint and moved on with his life. He probably came to realize, one day, that women aren't really attracted to guys who hold doors open; or make dinners just because; or buy you a Christmas gift that you mentioned, in passing, that you really wanted five months ago; or listen when you're upset; or hold you when you cry. He came to realize that, if he wanted a woman like you, he'd have to act more like the boyfriend that you had. He probably cleaned up his look, started making some money, and generally acted like more of an asshole than he ever wanted to be.
Fact is, now, he's probably getting laid, and in a way, your ultimate rejection of him is to thank for that. And I'm sorry that it took the complete absence of "nice guys" in your life for you to realize that you missed them and wanted them. Most women will only have a handful of nice guys stumble into their lives, if that.I suppose the other possibility is that you STILL don't really want a nice guy, but you feel the social pressure to at least appear to have matured beyond your infantile taste in men. In which case, you might be in luck, because the nice guy you claim to want has, in reality, shed his nice guy mantle and is out there looking to unleash his cynicism and resentment onto someone just like you.

If you were five years younger.

So, please: either stop misrepresenting what you want, or own up to the fact that you've fucked yourself over. You're getting older, after all. It's time to excise the bullshit and deal with reality. You didn't want a nice guy then, and he certainly doesn't fucking want you, now.

Sincerely,

A Recovering Nice Guy


starchild228:
I get that some women can be real pieces of work, but I really think this argument is an excuse for self-pity. Not all women are psychics. If a man is hanging out with a woman, never asks her out, never lets her know that he wants something more than friendship with her, how on earth is she supposed to know?? Yes, the woman in this scenario is self-absorbed, but the "nice guy" also has responsibility for being gutless and not letting her know what he really wants. He gets himself into the situation, doesn't let her know what's up, and then doesn't have the guts to get himself out of the situation and find what he really wants.

I've never dated anyone who is rich, terribly fit, or amazingly good-looking. I date regular guys, and the only reason why I ever dated an inconsiderate jerk was because my self-esteem was down the drain. I just married a regular, blue collar, nice guy. And I am rediculously happy. Chances are that this guy in this scenario is interested in entirely the wrong kind of woman to begin with.

Also, implying that a woman somehow owes a man sex for spending time with her in what, for all she knows, is friendship is disgusting. Women are human beings, too, and guys in these kinds of situations don't have the right to throw all the blame on the woman.
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