drugstorecowboy

and what? your're smoking ??? I thought you were studying to be a doctor or something smart like that.

you're too cute! x)

Thanks for the birthday wish! I was so busy with work in San Antonio, that I didn't have time for SG, DOH!

*whistles* ....all you trendy folk sure know how to have a good time....i find riding ponies very rejuvenating.

that always beats dysentery

well good news is that i found a national to correct everything i say in Spanish, its great...i feel 10 times more dumb than i already am.

-hows the berkely thing coming along?

Hey, I accepted your friend request, but two copies of you showed up, so I tried to delete one of them, but they both went, so I sent you a request.

On text sources,
Most of what I told you can be read on Wikipedia, and to be honest, I was remembering what I read there more than citing textual sources. However, I am not unread on the subject, and if you want to see what I was talking about illustrated instead of just described, I can tell you where to go.

For a perspective on Zen which emphasizes the mind-science aspect:
A Tune Beyond the Clouds edited and translated by J.C. Cleary. He may not be the best translater in the world, but the discussion of Buddha-mind and the history of Zen are enough to give you an overview without any gross factual errors, and the translated teachings of "Stone River" (Shique Xinyue) should demonstrate the emphasis on mind and mental change.
I would advise against reading Three Pillars of Zen. Kapleau means well, but his view of Zen is far too dogmatic to do justice to the tradition as a whole. He seems to feel like his roshi knows more than any other, and de-emphasizes "getting a second opinion" on Zen. Discourse and debate is at the heart of all traditions which originate in India, and Kapleau seems to be completely unaware of that.

My suggestion for a treatment of Tibetan Buddhism is going to be odd, but remember that I'm not endorsing its historical account (because it doesn't really offer one) or the evaluation of the author (because I don't trust him). That being said, the description of a Tibetan monastery found in Arkon Daraul's Secret Societies: A History should turn you on to the heavy emphasis on esoteric practices, Tantra, and mysticism. Don't worry about all the stuff he says about their use of drugs to make him see stuff because it's all conjecture on his part. The image that he reads off of them (what he thinks they're trying to project) is what matters here,

Hope that helps

shut it TheRevolutionary... we all get oone a day. like a vitamin

true, maybe i shoudl look into that... i have a high aptitude in chemistry and male model studies...