dietotzeit

i agree with you. and disagree with you. Bestiality IS quite disgusting. I'll give you that much. And, morals may be relative, but I wont give you that they are not innate. Many belive (and this is argued often) that they ARE innate, or apriori. This is the argument of most religions, and of Kant, of course, the greatest ethisist to exist. He says that there is a universal set of morality (or categorical imperative) that we may put to test in a variety of ways, but ultimately, that all human kind must abide to because it IS inherent to humanity.

nice quote, way the by.

oh, trust me, i dont mind. I too struggle with relativism, but am not ready enough to consider myself a relativist. there are too many slippery slopes. While i am madly in love with Kant (not so much his theories, just him- i just think he had a brilliant mind), there are points in his arguments that are not all that convincing to me either. Yet, all I was trying to point out is that even though the categorical imperative or other philosophies like it might be weak, they still exist, and thus there are people that believe that morality is innate. For this reason, we can only say that "for ourselves" morality is not innate, but there is no way we can come to a concensus about the "objective world" or "objective morality" for that matter.
-neko