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watch your mouth
hold your tongue boy
because you're running out of breath
running out of time
before every careless word that you utter
renders you utterly useless
now you're drowning in your own saliva
trying to speak yourself to the top of your empty world
keep on talking
just keep on rambling
you've got your mouth full
now listen here's the pleasant part
you...
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e_loveless:
good song. good song indeed.
scattershot:
aaahh the juliana theory awesome band awesome song.
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ok who wants to help me out?

i know this is totally cheating and i do already have a site in mind but i figured suggestions from others cant hurt. i need an example of good ONLINE MARKETING. if its something design or art related, even better.

this is a good example
because it allows people to design the shirts and then purchase its a...
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kumbel:
1/ No overhead - no need to warehouse or ship products. By only dealing in information, all of the heavy lifting is done by the vendors when the consumers contact them.

2/ Diversity - They don't rely on any given vendors for their revenue stream. Remember, they don't actually team with any companies, so their integrity rermains in tact. Vendors get exposure through ads and stories done on them. This integrity is part of what makes the magazine popular. Consumers know they aren't being conned. They also know the footwork in finding these vendors is done for them and accessible at any time on the web site.

3/ Niche marketing - by not trying to satisfy every last reader, like many magazines and web sites do, content doesn't get watered down to lowest common denominator. This means you might get a smaller audience (not everyone is looking for a $4000 sofa or a top end designer), but you'll also get a more loyal one because you are feeding that audience consistently interesting material.

4/ Diversity 2 - they have the relative stability of not just being a web entity. The methodolgy is simple. The magazine gives them brand recognition in the real world, and disseminates the latest info. Now consumers have a physical thing in their hands that doesn't need to be plugged in and they can flip through as they see fit. It doesn't provide all the infornation, so it leads to the web site where the details are filled in. (The corollary is that people see the web site and go to the magazine to get the original content). Now they have revenue streams from ads in the maazine and unit sales and ads on the web site. If one falters, the other is still in place to support it.


I'm a freelancer mainly doing 3D and motion graphic design. Mostly for television, though sometimes I do corporate work and film.

see ya! surreal
kumbel:
Nope, read the last part of Diversity 2. They get revenue from print and online ads, as well as unit sales and subscriptions.

The only examples I can think of that don't get ad revenue are Consumer Reports and Adbusters, but I haven't picked up either in ages.

Vice does the opposite. Unit sales are free and subscriptions have a minimal charge for postal fees, all of their revenue comes from ad sales in the zine and online (plus their online store and brick and mortar stores)

Freelance isn't as tenuous as it sounds. Once you get a rep (and you're good at what you do, obviously), you work as much as you want. It's those first few years that can hurt when you're building your rep. I did work full time for a few networks, but I'm actually making more now than I was as an employee and I'm much happier being my own boss.
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hermit
Pronunciation Key (hrmt)
n.

1. A person who has withdrawn from society and lives a solitary existence; a recluse.

arden:
2. also goes by the name of Arden
scattershot:
I can't think of a wittier way to say "so am I"
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anubis_:
I love Pepsi. biggrin
faye:
haha
this has to be the longest battle ever...you guys are crazy
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acidevangelist:
I miss the Pepsi pic. robot
acidevangelist:
Everything makes sense again. smile
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well its my first week of school and i must say that i really hate the "first week introductions" that go on. i really cant deal with public speaking. not sure if anyone has any anxiety disorders, more specifically social anxiety disorder. its really not a good thing to have your heart beating a million miles a second and feeling like your going to vomit...
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kumbel:
Love your new pic. You're so cute.

The whole reason I went into post-production (where i work alone in a graphics suite) was because of my social anxiety. seriously. i'm frighteningly shy in front of people i don't know. it sucks. love to meet some of the people on here but it freaks me out to think of it. am i a loser or what?

it's too late now, but i had a good possibility for your lame-o object lesson. i just received this bizarre looking mid-century russian military gas mask i bought on ebay. wasn't their intention, but the design of it is unreal. i'm in love with it. i was bored waiting for a render today so i put it on and put the buds for my ipod in it. there was this disconcerting concert of sound all over my face. it was surprisingly loud. i'm probably proving the loser thing even more now, so i'm quittin while i'm ahead.

too saddening to comment on katrina's victims. too maddening to comment on the catastrophic failure of the government to help.
cereal_killer:
yeah i'm sure that you being happy about me moving back soon has nothing to do with the fact that i'll be closer. tongue wink
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fucking anxiety problems frown
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averagebadfriend:
frown ...I hope every thing getts better for you soon.You have'nt written back to me in a while are you mad at me for some thing?......edited to say ah ...I see you allredy did write to me earlyer on my thread shocked hmmm well now I feel stupid for two reasons(I am shure you know what I meen wink ) frown !Ok you found out my not so hidden secret about how I can't spell so well.Now I feel sad...

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beretta:
maybe you need to take medicine. so you dont get anxious anymore. because its getting WAY out of hand, Deanna....like the other night, when you started ripping chunks of your hair out, and then you were crying and laughing at the same time. You freaked me out. Then you started screaming, and then you went and said if you had sex with some homeless people you would feel alot better. But thats ok, cuz i stopped you. Cuz that would be DIRTY....
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the end is near...
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cereal_killer:
the end? the end of what?
beretta:
Well, I hope you dont mean the end to candy. I would be very upset. Or the end of vibrators. I'd probably go nuts.
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ok so i spent the last week in londontown with the cutest boy in the world. i got drunk and saw some bands and watched some movies and i also got to meet the lovely faye...she is sooo pretty and sooo shy and i really hope she starts to like pepsi so i can hang out with her again soon. blush

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msashleypaige:
hehe, I was beginning to get sad/worried...


faye:
That sooooooooooo sucks about your groceries OMG! I would be so pissed!!!

I hope you had a good time at Randies though. You guys are super cute together.

And yeah...I'm shy when I first meet people. Sorry....

And if the only way that we can hang out again is if I switch to pepsi...you shouldn't hold your breath...pepsi is for virgins and people who are gay (meant as an inside and not as a mean comment incase anyone else reads that)

kiss
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beretta:
December 1st....till the 10th....and we're gonna go out and drink boozy drinks....mark it on your calendar!!!!! DO IT!!!!!
arden:
lol at least I don't feel like a dork now
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aandp:
your cat is sexy.!
wanna take astrid for a couple days?
i'm sure once you take her you will NOT want another cat.
lol.
beretta:
GASP!!! You'll be missing your kitty in December,.....you'll be sooooo distressed......you'll post papers with his photo on tree trunks.....all b/c i'll have STOLE him.....cuz he's too cute for me NOT to... wink