'observations, from Timothy'...... I've noticed that many, not all yet, young people get it, that the place of the state is that it ought to have no place to decide when and who consent to be married legally. If one is able to freely choose to be legally married, with all that it implies legally too, then that's all that matters.
When I was a teenager I hitch-hiked across the south (actually I ran away from home for various reasons), the signs were still posted, 'white' or 'coloured' drinking fountains, restrooms, and worse. In the north, my home, as such, an adult male, who happened to be a man, husband, father, friend - could be called 'nigger' and would do nothing because of the real fear for his family, not merely himself. My father promised to disown me if I was to date a 'coloured' girl. I did and he didn't disown me. We prayed for this to change, we marched for it to change, we sang about it's need to change, but most importantly we, as young people, lived this change. The legal acceptance finally caught up with our practice. To-day our practice as a collective people is catching up with our starry-eyed' practice in our youth.
Our youth, most of them, to-day practice inclusion of race, gender, religious expression as well as the noted 'Proposition 8' rejection. My children, five, spanning three decades, all of them are politically, generally conservative. (This is the way that children rebel against liberal parents, dad, i guess.) They also have friends that are liberal, in contrast to themselves, gay as well as straight, friends that represent the rainbow of our racially synergistic world, as well as friends from Buddhist, Hindu, Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Atheist, Agnostic heritage and the list goes on. They are much like the majority of young people that I meet daily in the business world. They are practicing an evolved acceptance of others that many adults only talk about, either with fear or applause, but most importantly - they are practicing it.
It 'only' took five decades in this country that I call my home, America, for those citizens of African heritage to be included by practice in every facet of the American life, freely (not counting the 150years previous to this of other enslavements). It took as long for the gender not of our Founding Fathers to be given the rights spoken of in the Constitution as Free-persons alongside of the men that established the nation by revolution. A 'Free-man,' from Thomas Jefferson is only free when they need not define for others what and who they are.
What I claim for myself as a right or freedom, I am only truly free to keep if I allow for the same for those I disagree the most.
One friend of mine, her newly turned eighteen year old son observed regarding this California referendum on marriage (he is straight too), after trying to explain to him the why's and what's of the proposed amendment to their state constitution, with, 'I don't get it, how do you legalize who will love each other.'
Heterosexual married people ought not applaud this proposed California constitutional amendment, those that are unable and unwilling to even get it right the first time in marriage even at 50% of the time. Just think, homosexual marriages could realize the same failure of wedding vows that heterosexual marriages have. Then they could help fund state mandated marriage workshops, pay more lawyers for more divorces, and jam up the court system in behalf of more children left by the wayside due to the lazy relationship ineptitude of adults, who all say, 'I'm marrying for love.'
It is the practice that is ahead of the laws. When our practice, both ours and our young people, is free from prejudice against or for all races, religious expressions, genders and whatever else a person may choose, then our laws will express that. So, as it has been said:
Practice! Practice! Practice!
applause!
timothy
PS.
actual, minimal, text of Proposition 8:
http://www.voterguide.sos.ca.gov/text-proposed-laws/text-of-proposed-laws.pdfprop8
more info, only information (no politicization of it): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_8_%282008%29
When I was a teenager I hitch-hiked across the south (actually I ran away from home for various reasons), the signs were still posted, 'white' or 'coloured' drinking fountains, restrooms, and worse. In the north, my home, as such, an adult male, who happened to be a man, husband, father, friend - could be called 'nigger' and would do nothing because of the real fear for his family, not merely himself. My father promised to disown me if I was to date a 'coloured' girl. I did and he didn't disown me. We prayed for this to change, we marched for it to change, we sang about it's need to change, but most importantly we, as young people, lived this change. The legal acceptance finally caught up with our practice. To-day our practice as a collective people is catching up with our starry-eyed' practice in our youth.
Our youth, most of them, to-day practice inclusion of race, gender, religious expression as well as the noted 'Proposition 8' rejection. My children, five, spanning three decades, all of them are politically, generally conservative. (This is the way that children rebel against liberal parents, dad, i guess.) They also have friends that are liberal, in contrast to themselves, gay as well as straight, friends that represent the rainbow of our racially synergistic world, as well as friends from Buddhist, Hindu, Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Atheist, Agnostic heritage and the list goes on. They are much like the majority of young people that I meet daily in the business world. They are practicing an evolved acceptance of others that many adults only talk about, either with fear or applause, but most importantly - they are practicing it.
It 'only' took five decades in this country that I call my home, America, for those citizens of African heritage to be included by practice in every facet of the American life, freely (not counting the 150years previous to this of other enslavements). It took as long for the gender not of our Founding Fathers to be given the rights spoken of in the Constitution as Free-persons alongside of the men that established the nation by revolution. A 'Free-man,' from Thomas Jefferson is only free when they need not define for others what and who they are.
What I claim for myself as a right or freedom, I am only truly free to keep if I allow for the same for those I disagree the most.
One friend of mine, her newly turned eighteen year old son observed regarding this California referendum on marriage (he is straight too), after trying to explain to him the why's and what's of the proposed amendment to their state constitution, with, 'I don't get it, how do you legalize who will love each other.'
Heterosexual married people ought not applaud this proposed California constitutional amendment, those that are unable and unwilling to even get it right the first time in marriage even at 50% of the time. Just think, homosexual marriages could realize the same failure of wedding vows that heterosexual marriages have. Then they could help fund state mandated marriage workshops, pay more lawyers for more divorces, and jam up the court system in behalf of more children left by the wayside due to the lazy relationship ineptitude of adults, who all say, 'I'm marrying for love.'
It is the practice that is ahead of the laws. When our practice, both ours and our young people, is free from prejudice against or for all races, religious expressions, genders and whatever else a person may choose, then our laws will express that. So, as it has been said:
Practice! Practice! Practice!
applause!
timothy
PS.
actual, minimal, text of Proposition 8:
http://www.voterguide.sos.ca.gov/text-proposed-laws/text-of-proposed-laws.pdfprop8
more info, only information (no politicization of it): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_8_%282008%29
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havana:
I only hope that with the work of those of us who actually believe in true freedom will allow us to see a change in society as you have. I can't wait.......Still hopeful.....
clio:
you're the best! 