atomicant said:
first off, this is one of the most infuriating threads around.
second, roethke is smart. like really, really smart.
and finally, cockzombie, i hate to say it, but a lot of your comments have come off blatantly racist. you at one point suggested they 'stop waiting around to get raped and get a job', and that the criminals involved in raping these women 'might have been invited to their (the victims) homes', and that 'many of these women are prostitutes'. these are all paraphrased, because i am way too angry, lazy, and tired to go quote them all.
and stating your husband is mexican is the quintessential 'i have (insert ethno/socio/economic sub group here) as a friend, i'm totally not racist!' comment. i'm sorry, it is.
the problem with your entire argument is that it is not based on factual, reliable, wide spread evidence. it is based on your anecdotal and subjective experiences, which are all colored by your race, your upbringing, your sex, and your religion. these experiences and how you decided to internalize them do not, in any way, shape, or form, constitute a valid and applicable picture of how all native american/american indian tribes and reservations work.
seriously. start doing some real research. go to your library, read a newspaper, something.
cockzombie said:
you must be from the vantucky side of town, if you think that is a 'source'
and ps, you are so not a local, you don't get to use that term.
Gave me wood. Please let me have your autograph. Please autograph my copy of The Republic.
atomicant said:
first off, this is one of the most infuriating threads around.
second, roethke is smart. like really, really smart.
and finally, cockzombie, i hate to say it, but a lot of your comments have come off blatantly racist. you at one point suggested they 'stop waiting around to get raped and get a job', and that the criminals involved in raping these women 'might have been invited to their (the victims) homes', and that 'many of these women are prostitutes'. these are all paraphrased, because i am way too angry, lazy, and tired to go quote them all.
and stating your husband is mexican is the quintessential 'i have (insert ethno/socio/economic sub group here) as a friend, i'm totally not racist!' comment. i'm sorry, it is.
the problem with your entire argument is that it is not based on factual, reliable, wide spread evidence. it is based on your anecdotal and subjective experiences, which are all colored by your race, your upbringing, your sex, and your religion. these experiences and how you decided to internalize them do not, in any way, shape, or form, constitute a valid and applicable picture of how all native american/american indian tribes and reservations work.
seriously. start doing some real research. go to your library, read a newspaper, something.
cockzombie said:
you must be from the vantucky side of town, if you think that is a 'source'
and ps, you are so not a local, you don't get to use that term.
Gave me wood. Please let me have your autograph. Please autograph my copy of The Republic.