Straight form the 'CE' Forum:
RyanDipietro said:
dkmfc said:
RyanDipietro said:
Let me give you a recap...
You said:
DKMFC said:
where have I said look where?
over there?
no.
look at you. look at the way you like to debate. flinging poop.
you can state all you want about how you feel you're hypothetically washing dog turd off of a lawn, yet it still remains that you have one debating style. you name call and throw tomatoes.
congrats.
and still hilarious. biggrin
did I call you cruel and mean? I don't think I did. you love being so full of yourself don't you.
it's like looking at a caricature of howard dean right here in the thread.
hello howard. yeeeeeaaaarrrr.
So I said:
RyanDipietro said:
Name calling? Tomatos? OH. You mean like at the Republican National convention, when tens of thousands of people trivialized John Kerry's miliatary record by wearing band-aids with purple hearts on them? Because, God knows, his military carreer PALES in comparison to that of the presidents. I mean, he wasn't in a fucking war or anything, right?
Making my ORIGINAL point that the REPUBLICANS were the ones doing the mud slinging, but let's continue...
Then SHE said:
porcelainheart said:
trivialized? kerry's purple hearts [all 3 of them] were awarded for minor injuries. scratches. he didn't spend time in the hospital.
just because bush didn't go to vietnam doesn't make kerry a better man than him. a lot of people suffered at the hands of john kerry during the war. he's not a man i'd trust, ever.
A statement that REALLY said what? I don't belive that John Kerry DESERVED his Purple Hearts, let's move on...
So I said:
RyanDipietro said:
He was wounded. In a war. You can sit here and feed me bullshit all day about how his injuries weren't severe enough to deserve a purple heart, but who the fuck are you to make that judgement? You don't hand out the medals.
John Kerry is a decorated Vietnam vet. THAT IS A FACT. You can't spin that.
Then SHE said:
porcelainheart said:
and who are you to get your boxers in a bunch and curse at me?
good for you for supporting a man whose picture hangs in a communist museum.
Meaning what exactly? So I clarify what I was saying here...
RyanDipietro said:
Are you serious? That's what I'm talking about. I give you a valid statement and you come back with "good for you for supporting a man whose picture hangs in a communist museum"? I'm sure there are pictures of George Bush in a museum somewhere, it doesn't mean he told them to put them there. You know what? Good for you for suppourting man who skated out on his military service and snorted more coke in the 80's than Sam Kinison and Naomi Campbell combined. It's because of backwards people like yourself, that people like myself have become cynical about the way this country is being run.
Pretty clear, right? That's what I thought, obviously not though, because she comes back with this...
She says:
porcelainheart said:
what makes your statement valid, ryan? where you told basically told me my opinion was bullshit, or when you said, "who the fuck are you?" i didn't come in here pointing fingers and throwing shit like your buddies have.
i never said kerry WASN'T a vietnam vet. i acknowledged the fact that he did indeed participate. now, what he really did there.. well. there's evidence. it wasn't good. veterans WHO SERVED WITH HIM have told stories about him. but i guess a lot of people are just too hell-bent on hating bush, so they don't pay attention to that.
Ovbiously my point hasn't been made yet, so I speak frankly at this point...
RyanDipietro said:
WHAT MAKES MY STATEMENT VALID IS THAT HE HAS THE FUCKING MEDALS, DUDE! IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT HIM. THIS ISN'T A SITUATION WHERE YOU CAN HAVE AN OPINION BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY ONE RIGHT ANSWER! HE. IS. A. DECORATED. SOLDIER.
Just because you heard on Fox News that the wounds he recived were only scratches doesn't change the FACT that he received medals from the military.
As far as the "Steamboat Captains for truth" (or whatever the fuck they call themselves) are concerned, I would hardly say that they have an unbiased opinion.
That's fairly straightforward, wouldn't you agree?
You did, here:
dkmfc said:
no. he was decorated.
That was my point. Then you change the subject...
You said:
dkmfc said:
so which part are you arguing here?
that she's "backwards people"?
or that kerry was decorated?
sure he was decorated. can't argue with that. and apparently circumstances don't matter. so I'm sure that our circumstances for going to war don't matter either right? I mean...we are at war. you don't make those decisions to hand out war, so you can't really argue with that.
what do we do now? pull out? what's going to happen then? everything will be peachy keen?
you apparently have no real answer except to be really pissed off at the way our country is being run because you feel lied to. just the same as we feel you going "but kerry is a decorated war veteran!" is lying to us. so what.
and her being backwards because you debate with her by cursing at her and calling her backwards?
you're the one that's backwards. if you're going to be cynical about something how about being cynical about the fact that you really have no idea at all about what's going on with the war, or why we are fighting it. just be cynical about the fact that despite your being all pissed off about the way the country is being run, all the other alternatives (kerry, etc.) that were offered up were solidly shot down by people who saw him for what he really is...a tool.
a decorated vietnam war vet tool, but a tool nonetheless.
So I ask you why you changed the subject to the war in Iraq, here...
RyanDipietro said:
Did I say ANYTHING about the war in Iraq? That isn't what this discussion is about.
You then go on to ask me what the discussion is about, making me realize that the reason that the fundamental problem with our government is that the liberals wear themselves out arguing about pointless shit, to conservatives who couldn't give a shit.
such prowess, such finesse. yet you still rely on name-calling to prove a point.
Thanks for proving my point.
What did we learn here today? Don't bother talking. Fucking people don't listen.