I'm not in the military, it's just a nickname, I've been a brassiere for a while now, somebody called me that and it stuck...I'd love to hear some kitchen stories from a guy int he miitary, it's gotta be fuckin' crazy, feel free to e-mail me, I'm working on a website www.foodservicewarrior.com not wuite up yet, I would love to have some of your stories, jargon, whatever...

If you all three came to visit I think I would have to take you all out and get you drunk...only you MUST be well-behaved. No loud, obnoxious military boy behavior, mmmmkay? That would be more fun than I could handle, I think Bring it on.

i recognize that you are trading service for money like all the rest of us who work jobs, but you are also contractually bound to work for a period of time, (which is rare in civilian life except at the highest levels) and you may be asked to give your life, which is also very rare in civilian work.

the terms of sacrifice you are talking about don't really come into play fully unless you see combat. i'm sure you know people who have been in combat, i know a few. only one guy from vietnam, he lives up the street with all his windows covered in black plastic, he weighs about 400 lbs. apparently hasn't been the same since he came back.

both my grandfathers were in ww2, one on a pt boat in the navy, the other was a seabee in the navy. the one who is still living talks to me about it when i ask him, his little brother was killed in belguim fighting the germans. it's still emotional for him 60 years later. i have been watching the dvds of band of brothers, and the interviews with the guys my grandfather's age breaking into tears when they talk about losing guys in their platoon is fucking heartbreaking. i think that is the kind of sacrifice you have to talk about if you want to really measure the price that gets paid.

i didn't think that you would throw a drink (though i am sure it would be some fancy pants wine if you did)

but i thought you and your jarhead buddies might have a sock party on my commie ass...

ashy gatorade, huh?

are you still interested in participating in a mixed-cd swap? they're doing another one: http://suicidegirls.com/boards/Music/8947/

the more people who play, the better!

i think it is part of the agreement, but one that is often never cashed in on. i mean, what percent of the servicemen in today's military have ever seen combat?

it's funny, of my grandfather's friends who were in the military during ww2, he is the only one who saw combat, the only one who personally killed anyone, and the only one who isn't hawkish when it comes to current military action. i guess i don't think it's a coincidence.

oh, don't worry i am not trying to muscle in on your job!

if i was in combat you guys would have a different kind of mop up to deal with. yellow puddle mop up.

anyhow, i wish there were more ways for the folks on the low end of the economic totem pole to get educated without ending up in debt. i'm not trying to say people who want to serve shouldn't, just that i wish those who signed up were people who signed up because they want to serve, not because they need the funds, or the education or whatever.

to the second point, since the original thread was about he draft, and that was my comment, i would like to figure out a way that all sectors shared the job of defending the nation.

it all boils down to the fact that i don't like it that the job of fighting for us all falls on the shoulders of the working class.

oh, don't worry i am not trying to muscle in on your job!

if i was in combat you guys would have a different kind of mop up to deal with. yellow puddle mop up.

anyhow, i wish there were more ways for the folks on the low end of the economic totem pole to get educated without ending up in debt. i'm not trying to say people who want to serve shouldn't, just that i wish those who signed up were people who signed up because they want to serve, not because they need the funds, or the education or whatever.

to the second point, since the original thread was about he draft, and that was my comment, i would like to figure out a way that all sectors shared the job of defending the nation.

it all boils down to the fact that i don't like it that the job of fighting for us all falls on the shoulders of the working class.

ps what is a sable round? a tank gun round of some sort?

[Edited on Jan 03, 2003]

do you ever go on aim?