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8/8/08

Bin Laden's Driver Convicted

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Bin Laden's Driver Convicted

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE

May 2006

AUG 06, 2008 08:07 AM

A jury of 6 convicted Salim Hamdan of some, but not all charges.

The conviction will most likely lead to a life sentence. A sentencing hearing will be held later today.

Hamdan is convicted of supporting terrorism, but was cleared of conspiracy charges.

This statement gives me some unease:

Defense lawyers had feared a guilty verdict was inevitable, saying the tribunal system's rules seemed designed to achieve convictions, said Navy Lt. Cmdr. Brian Mizer, Salim Hamdan's Pentagon-appointed attorney.

Ascanius

South Royalton, VT

October 2006

AUG 06, 2008 08:28 AM

Supporters of the tribunals said the Bush administration's system provided extraordinary due process rights for defendants.

Never mind the fact that it took a Supreme Court order to get him any sort of due process at all.

SockPuppet

I'm lost

July 2006

AUG 06, 2008 03:57 PM

Supporters of the tribunals said the Bush administration's system provided extraordinary due process rights for defendants.

Never mind the fact that it took a Supreme Court order to get him any sort of due process at all.

And never mind that all of the defendants could have been tried in the usual way, without any need to set up any sort of special court. "Extraordinary due process rights", my arse.

d20

San Francisco, CA

September 2003

AUG 06, 2008 04:24 PM

FTFA:

The jury reconvened for a sentencing hearing in which psychologist Emily Keram testified that Hamdan was orphaned by the age of 10, has only a fourth-grade education and worked for bin Laden because he felt it was the only way to support his family.

The military judge, Navy Capt. Keith Allred, gave Hamdan five years of credit toward his sentence for the time he has served at Guantanamo Bay since the Pentagon decided to charge him.

five years in jail without due process, followed up by a kangaroo court. and for what, to convict a hapless lackey?

not exactly a proud day.

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE

May 2006

AUG 06, 2008 04:29 PM

d20 said:
FTFA:

The jury reconvened for a sentencing hearing in which psychologist Emily Keram testified that Hamdan was orphaned by the age of 10, has only a fourth-grade education and worked for bin Laden because he felt it was the only way to support his family.

The military judge, Navy Capt. Keith Allred, gave Hamdan five years of credit toward his sentence for the time he has served at Guantanamo Bay since the Pentagon decided to charge him.

five years in jail without due process, followed up by a kangaroo court. and for what, to convict a hapless lackey?

not exactly a proud day.

Strange that the article doesn't say how much time he IS supposed to serve, with or without the 5 years off.

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE

May 2006

AUG 07, 2008 01:02 PM

GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba - A military jury has sentenced Osama bin Laden's former driver to 5 1/2 years in prison for aiding terrorism, making him eligible for release in just six months. Salim Hamdan was acquitted of conspiracy in the first Guantanamo war crimes trial.

MessyJesse

Roanoke, VA

February 2008

AUG 07, 2008 01:22 PM

This just in- Guy who delivered pizzas to Bin Laden could face death penalty...

Cassiel

Aurora, CO

September 2004

AUG 07, 2008 01:28 PM

Coming this fall, a heart-warming story of a friendship that transcended personal differences...Driving Mr. Bin Laden.

Adroitbeing

I'm lost

September 2003

AUG 07, 2008 01:31 PM

This administration continues with its breakthrough thinking - perhaps the first time a driver has been convicted in what amounts to a prosecution of "war crimes." What a fucking mess.

MessyJesse

Roanoke, VA

February 2008

AUG 07, 2008 01:33 PM

Cassiel said:
Coming this fall, a heart-warming story of a friendship that transcended personal differences...Driving Mr. Bin Laden.

Driver: Nice day out isn't it Mr. Bin Laden?

Bin Laden: Yes, but aren't you forgetting something?

Driver: Oh right, beautiful weather we're having...Death to America.

Bin Laden: That's better

smithers_jones

Los Angeles, CA

November 2003

AUG 07, 2008 01:51 PM

coyotemike said:
UPDATE

GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba - A military jury has sentenced Osama bin Laden's former driver to 5 1/2 years in prison for aiding terrorism, making him eligible for release in just six months. Salim Hamdan was acquitted of conspiracy in the first Guantanamo war crimes trial.

He was sentenced to 66 months and he has 6 months left to serve on the sentence. Coincidence?

minimalism

Garwood, NJ

OLD SKOOL

AUG 07, 2008 02:00 PM

MessyJesse said:
This just in- Guy who delivered pizzas to Bin Laden could face death penalty...

You know, that's what I'm thinking. When we catch bin Laden then give it some press. This whole thing is a non story.

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE

May 2006

AUG 07, 2008 02:36 PM

smithers_jones said:

coyotemike said:
UPDATE

GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba - A military jury has sentenced Osama bin Laden's former driver to 5 1/2 years in prison for aiding terrorism, making him eligible for release in just six months. Salim Hamdan was acquitted of conspiracy in the first Guantanamo war crimes trial.

He was sentenced to 66 months and he has 6 months left to serve on the sentence. Coincidence?

Actually, he has 5 months left on his sentence. They gave him 5 years and 1 month credit for time served.

SockPuppet

I'm lost

July 2006

AUG 07, 2008 03:34 PM

And when he gets out, he'll be deported to somewhere where he'll be taken off the plane by armed men "who could not subsequently be identified", and he will not be heard from again.

PaulNikon

Melbourne, FL

February 2003

AUG 07, 2008 03:44 PM

They also may hold him until the end of "the war on terror". Which is the custom in time of war.

Twelve

Bay City, MI

April 2007

AUG 08, 2008 09:09 AM

Oh, I see the Pentagon has refused to ever release him, despite the result of the trial.

Good thinking.

Sigh.

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE

May 2006

AUG 08, 2008 09:11 AM

TwelveTone said:
Oh, I see the Pentagon has refused to ever release him, despite the result of the trial.

Good thinking.

Sigh.

You see that where?

Twelve

Bay City, MI

April 2007

AUG 08, 2008 09:20 AM

coyotemike said:

TwelveTone said:
Oh, I see the Pentagon has refused to ever release him, despite the result of the trial.

Good thinking.

Sigh.

You see that where?

As soon as the sentence was issued, however, the Pentagon made it clear that it had no intention of releasing Hamdan. It says that it retains the right to keep him in prison for an indefinite period because he has been classed as an "unlawful enemy combatant".

SockPuppet

I'm lost

July 2006

AUG 08, 2008 06:00 PM

TwelveTone said:

coyotemike said:

TwelveTone said:
Oh, I see the Pentagon has refused to ever release him, despite the result of the trial.

Good thinking.

Sigh.

You see that where?

As soon as the sentence was issued, however, the Pentagon made it clear that it had no intention of releasing Hamdan. It says that it retains the right to keep him in prison for an indefinite period because he has been classed as an "unlawful enemy combatant".

So let me get this clear.

The court process - with all its "extraordinary due process rights" - doesn't actually mean anything, in terms of whether the accused actually gets out?

Fucking fuck. The USA is looking more and more like an Ancient Greek-style democracy; you know, slave-holding.